To be zāhid is to care nothing for dunyā whether Allāh ﷻ gives it to you or not. This sohbet explains the advice of Shaqīq al-Balkhī to Sulṭān Ḥārūn ar-Rashīd. A leader should be one who serves the people and keeps them from Hell. A leader should not be one who follows his desire for power or wealth.